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Meeting

Council - New Forest

Meeting Times
Scheduled Time
Start:
Thursday, 25th September 2025
6:30 PM
End:
Thursday, 25th September 2025
10:30 PM
Meeting Status
Status:
Confirmed; Special
Date:
25 Sep 2025
Location:
Council Chamber - Appletree Court, Beaulieu Road, Lyndhurst, SO43 7PA
Meeting Attendees
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Chairman
Chairman of the Council
Cllr John Sleep

Conservative

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Vice-Chairman
Vice-Chairman of the Council
Cllr Dave Penny

Conservative

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Committee Member
Cllr John Adams

Conservative

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Committee Member
Cllr Alan Alvey

Conservative

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Committee Member
Cllr Peter Armstrong

Independent

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Committee Member
Cllr Geoffrey Blunden

Conservative

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Committee Member
Cllr Hilary Brand

Liberal Democrat

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Committee Member
Cllr Mark Clark

Liberal Democrat

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Committee Member
Cllr Steve Clarke

Conservative

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Committee Member
Leader of the Council
Cllr Jill Cleary

Conservative

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Committee Member
Cllr Kate Crisell

Conservative

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Committee Member
Cllr Sean Cullen

Liberal Democrat

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Committee Member
Cllr Jack Davies

Liberal Democrat

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Committee Member
Cllr Steve Davies

Conservative

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Committee Member
Cllr Philip Dowd

Liberal Democrat

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Committee Member
Cllr Barry Dunning

Reform UK

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Committee Member
Cllr Jacqui England

Independent

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Committee Member
Cllr Richard Frampton

Conservative

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Committee Member
Cllr Allan Glass

Conservative

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Cllr David Harrison

Liberal Democrat

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Committee Member
Cllr Matthew Hartmann

Conservative

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Committee Member
Cllr David Hawkins

Conservative

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Committee Member
Cllr John Haywood

Labour and Co-operative

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Committee Member
Cllr Jeremy Heron

Conservative

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Committee Member
Cllr Nigel Linford

Independent

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Committee Member
Cllr Patrick Mballa

Liberal Democrat

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Committee Member
Cllr Colm McCarthy

Liberal Democrat

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Committee Member
Cllr Ian Murray

Conservative

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Committee Member
Cllr Stephanie Osborne

Liberal Democrat

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Committee Member
Cllr Alan O'Sullivan

Conservative

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Committee Member
Cllr Adam Parker

Green

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Committee Member
Cllr Neville Penman

Conservative

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Committee Member
Cllr Dan Poole

Conservative

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Committee Member
Cllr Caroline Rackham

Liberal Democrat

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Committee Member
Cllr Alvin Reid

Conservative

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Committee Member
Cllr Joe Reilly

Independent

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Committee Member
Cllr Janet Richards

Green

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Committee Member
Cllr Barry Rickman

Conservative

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Committee Member
Cllr Steve Rippon-Swaine

Conservative

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Committee Member
Cllr Michael Thierry

Non-aligned

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Committee Member
Cllr Derek Tipp

Conservative

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Committee Member
Cllr Neil Tungate

Conservative

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Committee Member
Cllr Alex Wade

Liberal Democrat

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Committee Member
Cllr Malcolm Wade

Liberal Democrat

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Committee Member
Cllr Christine Ward

Conservative

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Committee Member
Cllr Phil Woods

Liberal Democrat

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Committee Member
Cllr Richard Young

Conservative

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Officer
Chief Executive
Kate Ryan

In attendance

Officer
Chief Operations Officer and Deputy Chief Executive
Richard Knott

In attendance

Officer
Democratic ICT Officer
Daniel Reynafarje

In attendance

Officer
Principal Democratic Services Officer
Karen Wardle

In attendance

Officer
Assistant Director - Strategy and Engagement
Matt Wisdom

In attendance

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Committee Member
Cllr David Millar

Liberal Democrat

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Agenda
0 Apologies
Apologies for absence were received from Cllrs Brand, Linford, Murray, Osborne, O’Sullivan, Parker and Rippon-Swaine.
Minutes
1 Declarations of Interests
To note any declarations of interests made by members in connection with an agenda item. The nature of the interests must also be specified.

Members are asked to discuss any possible interests with Democratic Services prior to the meeting.
Minutes The Monitoring Officer referred to the advice which had been circulated to all members and confirmed that a dispensation had been granted, to enable all members to speak and vote on any recommendations, at minute 36 below, in respect of local government reorganisation. This was because it could be argued that Members may have a disclosable pecuniary interest in potential local government reorganisation, by virtue of their receipt of a Members’ allowance as a Member of New Forest District Council.

The Monitoring Officer also specifically referred to those members who were also Hampshire County councillors, and clarified that they had a standing dispensation to enable them to participate at NFDC meetings, having regard to the allowance they received from HCC.

Finally, the Monitoring officer confirmed that his advice given did not extend to any other interests that might preclude Members from participating in the business of the meeting.

There were no other declarations of any disclosable pecuniary interests by Members.
Minutes The Leader introduced the report and expressed her thanks to all those who had been involved in the work undertaken get to the submission of the final proposals. She highlighted that devolution or local government reorganisation was not sought by NFDC, but that there had been extensive work to do what was felt to be the best for new forest residents. Keeping the forest whole had been the task, and she thanked all the Group Leaders for their united support, recognising the importance of having one voice.

Reference was made to the residents having one voice, wanting to keep the forest rural and whole. They did not want to join a city-based council and whilst they may shop or use services across the wider Hampshire region, this did not mean they should be subsumed into an urban structure that does not reflect their local needs. It was highlighted that residents had told the council that life orientates around the forest, using the local businesses and facilities within the district.

Business and partners had been equally clear, wanting to keep the forest rural, and whole. They valued dealing with a rural authority that listens and understands the complexity of the area. There were concerns over the potential loss of identity and localness.

The Leader felt that Option 1 was the only option to support. In her view, it was the strongest option when assessed against the government’s criteria. She spoke about the rigorous, collaborative process with 12 councils working together, supported by expert analysis and extensive engagement.

She considered Option 1 to:

· Be a sustainable model that is the most balanced and locally responsive.

· Create four new unitary councils, and crucially, for the New Forest and Mid Hampshire

· Give a voice in the new Strategic Authority to the county’s rural and market towns and their communities.

· Keep the forest whole, avoiding boundary changes that would split district communities.

· Deliver financial sustainability, with a payback period of just three years and annual savings of £63 million, backed by robust financial modelling and a clear implementation plan.

· Best support public service reform.

· Enable place-based working, neighbourhood empowerment, and local decision-making.

· Allow the design of services around communities, not forcing communities to fit around services.

In summing up, the Leader felt that Option 1 was the only option that truly reflects how people live and identify with their place. It was considered the only option that protected the rural character, the local voice, and the ability to lead for communities.

Cllr S Clarke proposed the following motion:

That in recognising the overwhelming support from residents, businesses, local organisations and stakeholders, who have clearly expressed a desire to;-

Prioritise a rural identity and governance model that reflects the unique character and needs of the New Forest and Mid Hampshire; and Keep the Forest whole, avoiding any boundary changes that would divide the New Forest, the National Park and our historic communities.

The Council endorses the Cabinet recommendations to submit Option 1 for local government reorganisation, which proposes the creation of a new rural unitary council for Mid Hampshire, encompassing the New Forest, Test Valley, Winchester and East Hampshire.

Cllr S Clarke addressed the motion and expressed his thanks to the Leader for her strong and determined leadership and rebuttal to the recent criticism in the press from other council leaders. The proposal to submit option 1 had been developed having listened to local residents and that the majority of residents he had spoken to were in support of option 1. He felt it was important to listen to the local community and that the consultation had been a tool to seek their views. The views of local businesses had also been considered, and there had been due regard to the culture and history of the district. He felt that option 1 was the right option to support and that this option understood the traditions of the national park and its unique management. He requested that members endorse the motion.

Cllr Young seconded the motion.

During the debate, the following key points were made:-

· It was suggested that local government reorganisation was not what the council would wish to be doing. Members spoke with pride of the council, its services, staff and how the organisation was continually striving to learn and improve.

· There was scepticism of local government reorganisation, and the growing cost of demand led services including adults and children, in the context of a broader public sector funding challenge. A further concern related to larger authorities, democratic representation, and the benefits that district councils currently bring in being close to communities.

· Concerns were raised regarding the risks associated with local government reorganisation, due to short term financial pressures and any debts from other authorities. It was also recognised there was much uncertainly and that the expected savings might fail to materialise.

· It was acknowledged that government would make the final decision, not local authorities. Some Members felt that the district council should have a greater influence on the future decisions that would govern service delivery to its communities.

· Despite the points above, Members recognised the benefits in being involved in developing proposals, ensuring that local needs were taken into account. Thanks were expressed to the work of the Leader, councillors on a cross-party basis, and officers in bringing forward an option that is sustainable and deliverable that reflects the needs of the New Forest.

· The overwhelming response of residents, stakeholders, businesses and communities to the council’s engagement was in support of Option 1, with a number of Members highlighting the duty of councillors to represent these views.

· The fully parished nature of the New Forest District, Test Valley, East Hampshire and the vast majority of Winchester was noted, bringing a model of local government together that understood this community governance and representation. The alignment with areas such as Southampton and Eastleigh, with few or no parishes, concerned Members.

· The stewardship of National Parks and protected landscapes across Option 1 was promoted. There were concerns that any model that saw the alignment of these environmentally sensitive areas with urban centres, and in some cases, the split of National Parks, would undermine the council’s duty in this area.

· Members spoke of the rural alignment of the New Forest District and the need to ensure future governance structures did not place the district in an urban model.

· Regarding the prospect of boundary changes, Members highlighted that the government guidance invited proposals aligned to district building blocks and this should be respected.

· The impact on housing tenants in relation to boundary changes, was noted. 2,108 council tenants, in properties representing 40% of the district’s housing stock would be lost through the boundary change modifications. Members heard of the impact of revising operational arrangements, data, borrowing, income loss and reviewing policies, and how the alignment with an urban model would create real challenges in addressing the housing needs of the New Forest. There would also be detrimental impact on those on the current NFDC housing register with the boundary change option.

· Waterside councillors spoke of how Southampton Water divided the district from the city, with huge cultural and economic differences. The New Forest District was thriving, including a community of small businesses and freelancers. Culturally, waterside residents felt an intrinsic link to the wider New Forest district. As a collection of parishes, Option 1 provided the scope for this model to work on a larger geography. A city model presented great challenges to this community governance.

· A number of Members reflected on the findings of the Waterside Engagement Report, expressing deep appreciation for the voices and insights shared by residents across Totton, Marchwood, Hythe, Holbury, Fawley, Dibden Purlieu and Calshot. One councillor emphasised that the report is not merely a consultation summary, but a textured narrative of place, identity and belonging. It captures the lived experience of communities who feel emotionally and culturally aligned with the New Forest, rather than the urban centres to the east.

· Members reaffirmed their commitment of total opposition to any proposal which split the New Forest community through boundary changes.

· Members were united in support of Option 1, with the resolution below passing unanimously.

RESOLVED:

That in recognising the overwhelming support from residents, businesses, local organisations and stakeholders, who have clearly expressed a desire to;-

· Prioritise a rural identity and governance model that reflects the unique character and needs of the New Forest and Mid Hampshire; and

· Keep the Forest whole, avoiding any boundary changes that would divide the New Forest, the National Park and our historic communities.

That the Council endorsed the Cabinet recommendations to submit Option 1 for local government reorganisation, which proposes the creation of a new rural unitary council for Mid Hampshire, encompassing the New Forest, Test Valley, Winchester and East Hampshire.
3 Questions
Attachments:
Minutes The Chairman confirmed that a supplementary agenda had been published the day before with seven questions to be asked at the meeting. These had been reviewed by the Chief Executive, and those considered to be relevant to the business on the summons had been included in the supplement.

The Chairman reported that, after taking advice, he considered that there were special circumstances to allow questions to be asked, as a matter of urgency under section 100B(4) of the 1972 Act in that they related to Local Government Reorganisation, the reason behind the calling of the special meeting.

Members were invited to put their questions under Standing Order 22, as follows:-

Cllrs Harrison, Rackham, McCarthy and M Clark withdrew their submitted questions at the meeting, in light of the debate on the previous item. This was in relation to questions, 1, 2, 3, 5, and 7. This left two remaining questions.

· From Cllr Osborne to the Leader, Cllr Jill Cleary, regarding discussions with Hampshire County Council.

· From Cllr A Wade to the Leader, Cllr Jill Cleary, regarding Options 2 and 3 and what they could mean for residents.

Note: A copy of the full questions and replies are attached to these minutes.
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